Unless you try to cover up 25 character levels with 24 levels worth of templates and just 1 actual hit die... In that case, trust me, you just got too many templates, as will be proved by the first lvl 25 character that manages to give you a proper hit.
As demonstrated by my first character
A patriarch (age category) vampire half moon dragon (immunity to light/darkness effects cold breath weapon, gravity based powers at later levels) ulitherid (noble ilithid, two of the tentacles had reach)
He had one level of arcanist and one level of the alchemist NPC class,
Died to a huge green slime (and because he was my first psionic character and I didn't know I could still levitate out with them even when paralyzed, first character ever actually)
Man, Brook is just minmaxed to hell and back, huh? Dirty Old Man flaw, really old to exploit cumulative racial bonuses, the Yomi Yomi trades Undead weaknesses for Devil Fruit weaknesses, AND the devil fruit weaknesses are offset by the Run On Water feat, whose point buy is reduced as your weight goes down...and skeletons are naturally light, of course...
I've long had a dream to concoct a Celestial Half Infernal Prismatic Dragon Troll.
Celestial is a template that you can apply to a creature, as is Infernal. So you declare that your parents were an Infernal Prismatic Dragon and a Celestial Troll, allowing you to take the Half-Celestial, Tiefling, and Half-Dragon (Prismatic) templates and apply them to your Troll base stats. Stupid regen, immunity to everything, but most especially the only things that would prevent your regen, huge stat boosts, etc.
I've never had the opportunity to do it, more's the pity.
Meh, Still an epic CR/ECL character with 4d8 HP no spells, saves or attack bonus and still killable via Death Magics, Polymorph Effects, Vile Damage, Searing spell, Imprisonment, Unnaming and Ability Drain, so pretty much useless as a PC and as a NPC is pretty much a puzzle boss to see if your Wizard/cleric prepared spells intelligently today.
Or a warrior with a radiant weapon, so long as he's not an undead, or a paladin/antipaladin smiting the hell out of him, or a barbarian with true strike or basically anything that's able to reliably hit a monster whose only actual defense is a really high natural armor bonus to his AC... It's really not a good idea to have that many templates.
I remember playing a Half-Celestial, Half-Dragon, Half-Elf. I was always told that was a half too many. My reply was I needed the extra half to hold the awesomeness of my character.
He was also a Barbarian, so I put my lowest stat into Int, which ended up being a 14. With no Wizard in the party, I ended up with the highest intelligence score. So I furthered it along, took Control Rage, spent the points to be literate, had a Headband(Hat) of Disguise to hide my true nature and had a bandolier of vials that I would drink out of anytime I use a Special/Supernatural Ability. Dragon Breath? Downed a red one. Angel Wings to Fly? Blue one, and it 'lasted' for only a minute. Kept a War Hammer in a custom designed Handy Haversack, that by all outside accounts shouldn't of held it. Plus the Ring of Sustenance always provided a quick recharge if I needed to get my rages back.
DM: Battle's over, what do you do now?
Me: I find a nice tree to lean against, and take a nap.
DM: Well I guess the rest of you are setting up camp for a couple of hours.
Simon
10th Nov 2014, 12:41 AM
Zombie Skeleton template.
You glorious bastard.
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Raxon
10th Nov 2014, 1:02 AM
Skeletal zombie lich flesh golem.
Because too can never have too many templates.
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Ilmaros
10th Nov 2014, 2:14 AM
Unless you try to cover up 25 character levels with 24 levels worth of templates and just 1 actual hit die... In that case, trust me, you just got too many templates, as will be proved by the first lvl 25 character that manages to give you a proper hit.
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Sir William
24th Oct 2015, 3:47 PM"U'lock'wilros Silverclaw "
As demonstrated by my first character
A patriarch (age category) vampire half moon dragon (immunity to light/darkness effects cold breath weapon, gravity based powers at later levels) ulitherid (noble ilithid, two of the tentacles had reach)
He had one level of arcanist and one level of the alchemist NPC class,
Died to a huge green slime (and because he was my first psionic character and I didn't know I could still levitate out with them even when paralyzed, first character ever actually)
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Solokov
10th Nov 2014, 2:43 AM"I sense.... inspiration."
Inspiration for a certain skeleton zombie bard.
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TippyToe Zombie
19th Sep 2015, 4:26 PM
Bardic Inspiration?
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Silenc
10th Nov 2014, 7:53 AM
Raxon, you forgot draconic half-dragon.
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Raxon
10th Nov 2014, 11:17 AM
And fae, and celestial, and demitrout.
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t0rm3n7
10th Nov 2014, 12:41 PM
and vampire, and lycanthrope, and half-fiend
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xuincherguixe
12th Nov 2014, 4:38 AM
You guys are all way off.
You want to go Half-Halfling. No one gives halflings much attention. You'd get half of even that!
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Poker
1st Nov 2017, 8:46 PM
because of this avatar, i read all your comment in Zura's voice.
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BakaGrappler
10th Nov 2014, 3:14 AM
Hmmm, hm, hm hmm hmmmmmm.
Humming Ten Feet.
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Super_Big_Mac
10th Nov 2014, 11:15 AM
Yohohoho....
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NXTangl
17th May 2017, 10:44 PM
Man, Brook is just minmaxed to hell and back, huh? Dirty Old Man flaw, really old to exploit cumulative racial bonuses, the Yomi Yomi trades Undead weaknesses for Devil Fruit weaknesses, AND the devil fruit weaknesses are offset by the Run On Water feat, whose point buy is reduced as your weight goes down...and skeletons are naturally light, of course...
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Guest
10th Sep 2018, 6:59 AM
Cory wants a 2nd character.
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Porphyrogenitus
10th Nov 2014, 10:52 PM
I've long had a dream to concoct a Celestial Half Infernal Prismatic Dragon Troll.
Celestial is a template that you can apply to a creature, as is Infernal. So you declare that your parents were an Infernal Prismatic Dragon and a Celestial Troll, allowing you to take the Half-Celestial, Tiefling, and Half-Dragon (Prismatic) templates and apply them to your Troll base stats. Stupid regen, immunity to everything, but most especially the only things that would prevent your regen, huge stat boosts, etc.
I've never had the opportunity to do it, more's the pity.
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Malroth
11th Nov 2014, 6:29 AM
Meh, Still an epic CR/ECL character with 4d8 HP no spells, saves or attack bonus and still killable via Death Magics, Polymorph Effects, Vile Damage, Searing spell, Imprisonment, Unnaming and Ability Drain, so pretty much useless as a PC and as a NPC is pretty much a puzzle boss to see if your Wizard/cleric prepared spells intelligently today.
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Ilmaros
11th Nov 2014, 7:56 AM
Or a warrior with a radiant weapon, so long as he's not an undead, or a paladin/antipaladin smiting the hell out of him, or a barbarian with true strike or basically anything that's able to reliably hit a monster whose only actual defense is a really high natural armor bonus to his AC... It's really not a good idea to have that many templates.
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Orion Fury
11th Nov 2014, 5:53 PM
I remember playing a Half-Celestial, Half-Dragon, Half-Elf. I was always told that was a half too many. My reply was I needed the extra half to hold the awesomeness of my character.
He was also a Barbarian, so I put my lowest stat into Int, which ended up being a 14. With no Wizard in the party, I ended up with the highest intelligence score. So I furthered it along, took Control Rage, spent the points to be literate, had a Headband(Hat) of Disguise to hide my true nature and had a bandolier of vials that I would drink out of anytime I use a Special/Supernatural Ability. Dragon Breath? Downed a red one. Angel Wings to Fly? Blue one, and it 'lasted' for only a minute. Kept a War Hammer in a custom designed Handy Haversack, that by all outside accounts shouldn't of held it. Plus the Ring of Sustenance always provided a quick recharge if I needed to get my rages back.
DM: Battle's over, what do you do now?
Me: I find a nice tree to lean against, and take a nap.
DM: Well I guess the rest of you are setting up camp for a couple of hours.
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wite_c83
1st Dec 2014, 10:58 AM"Yo ho ho ho"
Gather up all of our crew it's time to ship out Bink his brew....
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Emperor Megaman
4th Jul 2021, 9:08 AM
If they died there, the GM would have to retcon that Zeff and Sanji in the present where Zombie all along, which would raise more question.
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