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By the same author as Grand Line 3.5


18th Jul 2016, 12:10 AM

Uh, what sort of effect does being a devil fruit eater have on that? Possibly something he forgot about.

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18th Jul 2016, 4:40 AM

I assume that a devil fruit just makes it so that you can't use the devil fruit-granted supernatural abilities while in water and auto-fail all swim checks

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Kaze Koichi

18th Jul 2016, 11:14 AM

Actually, you can. Spoilers: they stretched Luffy's neck to help him breath later.
I think you are considered dazed while you are in sea.

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18th Jul 2016, 11:48 AM

I'd term it as becoming helpless when in contact with the ocean. Which, of course, makes you unable to use supernatural abilities and make swim checks, because you can't do anything.

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18th Jul 2016, 12:27 PM

So I am assuming you are okay with SPOILERS*:

When a Devil Fruit Eater is about knee deep (or the equivalent) in water or exposed to a Sea Prism Stone it... is inconsistent. XD Generally though they lose control of or total access to their Devil Fruit powers, as well as it sapping their strength.

Like I said though it is inconsistent or else there is a detail I haven't grokked yet: as we'll see Luffy can't stretch but can be stretched, and he'll be able to stretch limbs into water. Eventually he'll do a bit where (while angry) he keeps forgetting and grabbing onto the bars of a prison cell made from Sea Prism Stone and when he does, he'll slump to the ground and nearly pass out. On the other hand when other users have manacles made using a Sea Prism Stone, they can still walk around, even put up a decent enough struggle, but the examples I am thinking of weren't especially strong (physically) characters. So maybe it barely weakened them and just cut off access to powers or maybe it did more than I realized, but since it wasn't a powerhouse like Luffy I didn't realize that said characters were significantly weakened.

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that one guy

18th Jul 2016, 1:12 PM
"why luffy could stretch"

the reason luffy cant stretch is because, as you said, being that deep in water causes him to lose all his strength. the reason other people can still stretch him on the other hand, is because he doesnt technically have any powers. its a thin technicality, but luffy's body is just made of rubber, so outside forces can still manipulate him even while under the effects of kairoseki or the ocean

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18th Jul 2016, 2:55 PM

My assumption is that the inconsistency has to do with the type of people involved.

We see someone with a Devil's Fruit power that does absolutely nothing unless specifically activated (think blooms) not be noticeably affected by direct contact with Seastone, but Luffy seems completely incapacitated by it. We also see someone else whose body is completely dependent on his Devil Fruit for function rapidly weaken and become practically unable to move in contact with more than a small amount of water.

I believe the inconsistency lies in which characters are more affected by it, than in how it affects characters in general.

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18th Jul 2016, 5:01 PM

As far as i understood the show, there is also a difference in processing the sea prism stone. That marine scientist, vegapunk iirc, works on that. The manacles like on Enies Lobby would honestly be impractical if they would completely drain a devil fruit users strength. That's why they are made to only block the devils fruit power. Water renders every devil fruit user absolutely powerless to the point that they can't even try to swim.

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18th Jul 2016, 12:14 AM
"Tell a Story: Eh, we'll get him later"

Party splits are at their most dangerous, especially when one of the members is facing imminent death within a defined period of time. This is even more dangerous when the party mates decide they have enough time to do something else, before saving their party mate.

Tell a story about a time a party mate was in a time sensitive bind, and whether or not your friends made it in time to help them. Bonus points for ironic deaths and hard feelings left over at the table.

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18th Jul 2016, 5:16 AM

Dumb as I was, I was the squishy wizard and I flew ahead of the party on a railroad track... underground... in complete darkness. I had darkvision, but so did the camouflaged Roper that paralyzed and grappled me out of sight.
Only my very short, surprised yelp lead them to my vague direction to save me, real close call for what was basically something I could never have saved myself from.

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18th Jul 2016, 2:33 PM
"Don't dive into supernatural pools of inky blackness..."

Playing a game of FATE, in a homebrew setting where the realm of ideas and imagination is a lot more real, and able to affect the world, than most people realize. Set in NYC, our party tracked a wine thief, also a wine golem, from midtown down to the east village, eventually sneaking into the back of a fancy bar that turned into a Labyrinth, before coming upon an unfriendly Dionysus cult. After a fight involving leopard handed Eurotrash, an office worker Musketeer swinging around, and a priest wielding a thyrsus, wearing a purple velour tracksuit, and masturbating snakes at us, said priest took out a tiny flask and drank some black liquid.

This turned out to be a nightmare drug we'd been trying to figure out the origins of, and he turned into a big goat-wolf beast, still wearing a purple tracksuit. After my character, a heavily armed Blacksmith and HEMA fighter, nearly bisected him with a Kriegsmesser, he began sinking into a puddle of darkness, which some of us had seen happen with other users of the drug. But, since it was our mission to find out where the drug came from, our fearless leader rolled up his elbow-patched tweed jacket, handed me the end of his doric column shaped Nyoi-bo (size-changing staff), and dove into the pool of blackness.

Two other party members decided to follow after him into the DIRECT HOLE TO NIGHTMARE, so he wouldn't be alone against whatever was in there. This left my character trying to anchor them outside, and one more guy helping by using his stellar radiation to melt the ground around my (lava-proof) steel-toed boots, and, essentially, cast magic missile at the darkness. Here came the crux of the problem: inside the pool of darkness, our fellow party-members were caught up in a delusion of seventies super-spy action on a darkened yacht, with a horde of zombies rising up, while trying to hunt down their nemesis. As they went further and further in, barely remembering what was actually going on, or that they were only anchored by our leader's grip on his "cane", I could feel them getting sucked further in, but had no idea what was going on. As they got closer to the "villain", things got darker and more twisted, until they eventually cornered him in his office, where he sat facing away from them, laughing that it was already too late to stop him. Spinning the chair around, they saw...the Priest of Dionysus, in his purple tracksuit, already clearly dead.

As the nightmare realm died around them, pulling them downwards into oblivion, they finally remembered what was going on, and all grabbed onto the staff, retracting it while I frantically tried to pull them in, just barely popping through the event horizon before it sealed them in forever. After that, all we had to do was find our way out through a crumbling Labyrinth and exit into the East Village, and we were safe and sound.

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18th Jul 2016, 9:23 AM
"Typo in last panel"

"Constitution" score, not "Consituation" score.

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18th Jul 2016, 11:49 AM

I just noticed that the second one is typod in a different manner- Consitution (just a t-i swap)

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