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By the same author as Grand Line 3.5
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Guest




4th Sep 2021, 5:05 PM

I'm not familiar with the mechanics of 3.5, is a draw actually possible? Unless both parties can't possibly hurt each other at all one of them should go down eventually.

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The Old One




4th Sep 2021, 6:39 PM

I think that would fall sqarely into the "possible, but improbable" category. If you do the math with only average rolls, then the idea that they have sufficient AC and DR, among other features, to remain relatively untouched is possible. Crits, however, have a tendency to throw off those averages.

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Siris C.




4th Sep 2021, 7:27 PM

Unless both builds include crit negation by using fortified armor.

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The Old One




5th Sep 2021, 11:58 PM

True, but the best Fortification you can get is 75%, so while reducing the potential chance of crit damage, it is not negated. It would draw the fight out longer, of course

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Siris C.




6th Sep 2021, 12:43 AM

The best fortification in 3.5 was 100%. Pathfinder nerfed that to 75%.

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Guest




4th Sep 2021, 9:26 PM

By rule, if Player A is at -9 hp and do is full round and kills player B, both players would die
since player A would be at -10 at the end of his full round. Which would conclude in a deadly draw

They are many instance where a draw is possible, but like The Old One said, its improbable. Unless both player are casters with contengency spells, but that's a whole different beast on its own.

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fellow




5th Sep 2021, 2:42 AM

I think draw here is defined as "a ton of rounds have passed but both characters still have a bunch of health with no end in sight", rather than both of them becoming dead or inaccessible. But that's not really a thing that happens in actual 3.5 of course.

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Geno




5th Sep 2021, 5:56 PM

As a player of multiple ttrpgs, I must say that the existence of two characters like these within a roleplaying game system would greatly discourage me from actually playing it.

There does come a point in ttrpgs where the rules, despite the fact that they may exist for the sake of fun, can become too complex for fun to be had while all of the rules are being held to.

The ttrpg being presented in this comic series is one I would readily classify as "needs to be a video game" because actually keeping track of all of the stats that would go into something like this fight, specifically, would be an absolute nightmare of arithmetic and rules interpretation.


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Rzz




5th Sep 2021, 11:41 PM

One of my 3.5 campaigns once had a duel between an HP tank and an AC tank, both level 18 NPCs. It was off-screen to not take up a bunch of in-session time, but I did actually roll it out beforehand. 29 rounds until the HP tank won.

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