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LazerWulf

LazerWulf




9th Oct 2020, 1:28 AM
"1500 Comics! Woooo!"

I started my D&D education with 4E, so I never had a chance to play a 3.5E game (though I am DMing a 5E game currently). Was the Flaw system that much of a pain to work around?

P.S. Congrats on 1500 pages!

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Thud




9th Oct 2020, 4:10 AM

Ehhhhhhhh

The flaw system used here doesn't mesh to any system I know from 3.x. Oh a lot sounds right, and the idea of flaws for bonus feats was a thing, but the flaw system I know limited it to up to 2 flaws, for the same number of feats and they had to be feats you could take at level 1. Not to mention some of these flaws aren't at all anything I ever saw printed officially. It's definitely based on the 3.5 flaw system, but i'd not use it as a guide.

The bigger issue was that 3.x was so wildly unbalanced that system mastery could create huge gaps in character effectiveness, it didn't take much for one character to rapidly dominate some broad aspect of the game such as combat or socializing, and often times didn't even happen on purpose.

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Guest




19th Oct 2020, 9:24 PM

That's why my old group kinda took advantage of that. One player tended to like min/maxing combat characters, another magic, etc.
Since our DM tended to stick by that, throwing the biggest threats at the ones who could handle it and lesser threats at the weaker characters, I was free to build weaker but interesting RP character ideas without worrying about being too underpowered to survive.
Thus I could build a fighter throwing magic-laced rocks, a half-squirrel berserker-barbarian, a half-shark rogue, an "effeminate" RPing dragonshaman, etc.
Essentially, they could be Overpowered Luffy/Zoro, and I could be underpowered RPer Nami (or something silly like a young reindeer doctor... or a robot in a speedo... or a skeleton musician...) without either of us being out of place in the game.

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Grrys




9th Oct 2020, 9:53 AM

3.5 Fighter: You get more gold to spend than most everybody and an extra feat at first level.

3.5 Samurai: You get masterwork heavy armor AND a masterwork weapon right out the gate, in addition to about as much gold as that fighter.

Sure, that's more along the lines of power creep compared to the ridiculous min-maxing Cory and Luke are abusing, but a friend of mine was able to utilize those flaws to get a fighter that started with the same stuff as the samurai, so it was wildly exploitable.

All the min-maxing I do is simply to see if I can

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Malroth

Malroth




13th Oct 2020, 10:42 PM

3.5 Wizard Takes out entire party of equal leveled fighters at lv 1 with a single spell, uses the loot to buy a pet dog which is better than the fighter or the samurai in every way.

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Guest




10th Oct 2020, 1:14 AM

You can actually find a decent chunk of the flaws used in this comic by looking at Homebrew feats in the D&Dwiki.

Flaws in 3.5 were far simpler, there was a limit of 2 flaws you could take, and none were as ridiculous as the kinds you see Luke using, much less Corey.

But flaws do still have their well-deserved reputation as something used by min-maxers, for exactly the kind of reasons you see here. It's a really permissive table you see here. But muchkinry can be fun, if that's the kind of table you have.

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naphack




9th Oct 2020, 1:52 AM
"The highest ranking member..."

... Wouldn't that be Zoro?
I get that Nami is the quartermaster and therefore in charge of running the day to day operations of the ship. But this is a combat situation and during combat, the captain is in charge.
And with the captain incapacitated, command over combat operations would go to the first mate, which is Zoro.

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zomg




9th Oct 2020, 2:09 AM

Sure, but would Cory think of that?

Also 1500 pages woo!

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Keirgo




9th Oct 2020, 2:38 AM

Is Corey's Zoro officially first mate?

(In the manga I know Zoro doesn't have an official position, but he does act as 'vice-captain' to use Oda's words.)

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Kale

Kale




9th Oct 2020, 3:16 AM

It's called lying. Nat rolled higher on her Bluff than Corey did on his Sense Motive.

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Guest




9th Oct 2020, 3:46 AM

So, I did a little digging, and surprisingly enough, the Quartermaster does in fact have more authority than the First Mate on a pirate crew.... weird

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Guest




9th Oct 2020, 4:20 AM

CgpGrey did a duo of videos recently about how the pirating system work actually, I recommend them

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Kinrah




9th Oct 2020, 5:41 AM

There was a whole argument a long time ago in this very comic where Cory tried to pull rank only for Nat to bring up this fact.

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naphack




9th Oct 2020, 1:21 PM

Yes, but not during combat.

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ColdSnap




9th Oct 2020, 8:51 AM

Nat, you can't be sending Cory on his own. He'll end up god knows where using that 100 sided die.

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Silentgod




9th Oct 2020, 9:27 AM

Yeah, she realized that at the last second. Thought she had the perfect plan only for it to fall apart almost immediately.

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Don't worry




11th Oct 2020, 9:34 AM

Don't worry, with luck Cory will just end in Raftel and take the one piece swimsuit with him

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