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By the same author as Grand Line 3.5
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Phantomdemon




19th Nov 2018, 3:56 AM

So, that's going to be "Luffy's" connection to 'Roger'

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Luhood




19th Nov 2018, 11:59 AM

Honestly, I think it's gonna be more "Ace" than "Roger" considering they're talking about it OoC about another game rather than IC.

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Phantomdemon




19th Nov 2018, 4:16 PM

Not even that.

From what I can tell, Black Text boxes mean flashback territory, not just OoC.

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BakaGrappler




19th Nov 2018, 4:03 AM

Yeeeeeeessssssss

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Halosty45

Halosty45




19th Nov 2018, 12:18 PM

I totally forgot that the foundations of the platform broke...

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Devlerbat




19th Nov 2018, 4:11 PM
"Tom"

I suspected before they were talking about Tom, now I am certain they are talking about Tom.

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Guest




19th Nov 2018, 6:40 PM

who the cluck is Tom?

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NoGentleman




19th Nov 2018, 8:06 PM
"Tom"

so, there's apparently this whole overarching sub-plot between this series and steven and the crystal gms, another d&d webcomic focused around the show steven and the crystal gems, which apparently shares the same universe with this story (not to surprising as some of the guest characters so far clearly have made reference to their role in the steven webcomic).
if you're curios, tom is the player of the jasper character over on that comic, so you could read that arc, but i can try to recap even if i don't remember much, partially because i stopped reading thanks to all the stuff connected to that very character.
if i remember correctly tom is a very cruel player who works for some kind of legal gaming firm. i think he was some kind of lawyer who helps acquire new game franchises for his firm by using his uncanny talent for character optimization to crush new promising game developers in their own games (in steven one of the character's actually created the crystal gem setting as a homebrew)and taking their franchise over for the firm he works for.
now to be fair, he is a very by the rules guy and once an agreement is made, he will uphold it to a t and should you manage to beat him, as unlikely as that may be, he will leave you alone for the most part.
as is said though, i stopped reading steven in particular due to the whole tom and the connected legal property stuff which took over the entire thing over there, but this should give you a starting point at least.

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Rastaba

Rastaba




19th Nov 2018, 10:58 PM

As the author behind Steven and the Crystal GMs...that’s pretty much exactly correct. And I don’t blame you for giving up on it due to that hot mess. Even I acknowledge that was waaaaayyyyyy too much whole-heartedly.

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Cloy552




20th Nov 2018, 2:19 AM

It's that kind of stuff that made me stop reading the avatar one. It's a goddamn game. You don't have to roll to do things out of character and this isn't goddamn YuGiOh, the world doesn't revolve around games...

Also I realized all the players were horrible people except maybe Toph and Sokka. Maybe.

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NoGentleman




20th Nov 2018, 8:45 AM

oh, since i have you here already and just out of curiosity, how deep does this shared universe rabbit hole go? because i followed my own advice and re-read some of the jasper arc and ... yeah.

so, it's obvious that grand line and steven are connected. but there's also that bit where one of the characters in steven apparently is/was the dm for that universes adventure time setting and the whole part where apparently tom had a character sheet for toffee from star vs mixed in with his notes, showing that he's connected to that as well. and then there was a comment, that pointed out that the d-infinity, a mechanic closely tied to tom's background, was also introduced in an avatar tla webcomic, which, after checking that out, i found has ties to a danganronpa webcomic and i think i recognized one of the names from that cast list as one of the characters from steven....

so yeah, how interconnected is this whole thing, or can anyone just use any character or mechanic they like from other webcomics? i'm really starting to get confused on what's connected to what and in which way.

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Guest




20th Nov 2018, 9:45 AM

Rastaba can correct me if I'm wrong, but at the very least the whole Weers Publishing plot seems to be mainly just between Crystal GMs and DnD Aangvanced. Both comics have also made references to other movies/series as being campaigns the players have played, but nothing that's meant to connect to other dnd comics that might exist for those same franchises.

The Danganronpa comic was an interlude arc for Aangvanced that was done by Rastaba (the Crystal GMs author), taking place between The Last Airbender and The Legend of Korra. It was basically the aangvanced players doing a campaign run by Bonnie (Pearl's player in Crystal GMs, who in turn is playing Tashigi here in Grand Line).

The flashback in Aangvanced that introduced the idea of the dInfinity did have a number of cameos of players from other webcomics (everyone playing in the same tournament as My Hero Acadamia characters), but I don't know how canon those camoes are on the flip side. For instance, IIRC the Naruto:Justsu and Jinchriki author has said he's fine with his characters making camoes that are canon to other people's series, but doesn't view them as being canon to his own series.

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Rastaba

Rastaba




20th Nov 2018, 10:14 AM

The guest is essentially correct and far as the interconnectedness, I think it probably counts on a sort of case by case basis. Each time where I wrote a page where such references were a point, I generally tried to make certain to ask permission from that comic’s author first.

Like how ‘guest’ mentioned that the within Jutsu & Jinchuriki none of the apparent crossing over or other campaigns are canon, but they can be considered canon to the other work based I assume upon the author’s personal wishes. I have spoken at length with Deadpan Sal so I would say Steven & the Crystal GMs and Aangvanced are definitely rather intertwined. How interlinked to all of that Grand Line is remains to be seen though I doubt it will approach quite the mess I made. Dragontrainer is a WAY better author than I am.

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Generic Greg




20th Nov 2018, 9:02 PM

Hey, Rastaba, as the completely unbiased author of your web comics, do you suggest people should read them, and as such, have some sort of link available for people to read them?

#SellOutDoItForTheViews

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Veritas




19th Nov 2018, 9:51 PM

Could ace and Blackbeard be the same player trying to do a different style? Both are tremendously op but have similar attitudes.

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Guest




19th Nov 2018, 10:27 PM

Ahh yes, the classic “cat’s in the cradle” moment in gaming, when you realize two players have almost identical styles. Like the time I joined my little sister’s group and the DM realized “oh god there’s two of them”. We both ended up bringing highly optimized Bloodragers to what was supposed to be heavy politics campaign. We even had the same bloodline, race, and archetype (completely unintentionally, we both just saw the class separately and thought that build looked fun). We ended up playing the whole thing for laughs as our characters would vehemently deny they were anything alike in perfect sync.

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