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BakaGrappler




24th Oct 2018, 1:59 AM

Holy shit. That's one bad ass lion. Maybe he should form his own pirate crew? :P

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Phantomdemon




24th Oct 2018, 10:12 AM

You know, that does give me a thought on how to re-work the Ranger's Beast Master archetype.

Make the Beast a level or two stronger then the Ranger, but dumb down it's INT for most of the class, making it reliant on the Ranger.

Course, that does mean that once the Beast goes down, the Ranger's just got bow damage or such, but given the Beast Master's current use, that's still an improvement.

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Valandar




24th Oct 2018, 10:50 AM

Letting the Beastmaster's beast actually be worth anything after third level would be an improvement. As it is, it's only good for forcing advantage and taking one hit someone else in the party won't have to.

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Raxon

Raxon




24th Oct 2018, 1:24 PM

I tried making a viable beastmaster once. Here is my list of things I am not allowed to tame:

A hive of killer bees.
The tarrasque.
Anything from the far realm.
An A1 Abrams tank.
A magical ED-209.
A murder of crows.
A swarm of rats. Those bigass new york ones, and I said there were dozens of them.
The 2000 Chinese Olympic acrobatics team.
The 1996 Yankees.
The 2014 Patriots.
A Volkswagen beetle.
A young dragon.


In that particular group, I was told that I have to play a character as it is written in the book. I get where the DM was coming from, but was told I could not improvise or alter the stats, even if my beastmaster was dead weight at level four.

"You picked your class, and it's your class. If you wanted a viable class, you should have chosen one instead of making a useless character."

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Generic Greg




24th Oct 2018, 1:41 PM

Honestly, I get not letting you have a hoard of something, because that would actually be terrifying powerful.

Consider an actual hoard of rats climbing and knawing your flesh. You can't stop it.

Seriously though, I get it's the class as written....but that strikes me as the DM being a bit of a dick. Like, you could easily just let me switch to another architype, and say my character also knew how to do that to justify it...without allowing me the benefits of multiclassing, because I shouldn't be able to have the abilitis of that other class, just the new one for balance.

Point is, I feel like they could have handled that in a way that was less, "Nope, you MUST play this underpowered character, your fault deal with it"

But that's just my generic opinion.

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Generic Greg




24th Oct 2018, 1:44 PM

Basically, don't play Ranger kids, it really needs a buff!

Oh. Or the Haversack, filled with spears that you use as arrows.

Or trick arrows in general.

One of those.

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Raxon

Raxon




25th Oct 2018, 1:35 AM

Arcane Archer is fun, though.

I can have an unlimited quiver of +5 force arrows. Combine that with manyshot, and I'm a force to be reckoned with when it comes time to fight ghosts or any incorporeal thing.

Seriously, Rangers are my favorite class. They're real good solo characters.

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Omega BigRed




25th Oct 2018, 12:59 AM

Did the ranger revision not help much?
https://media.wizards.com/2016/dnd/downloads/UA_RevisedRanger.pdf

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Rastaba

Rastaba




24th Oct 2018, 8:52 PM

...I confess, I am curious how one would tame the A1 Abrams tank...like...how does taming that work?

Volkswagen beetle though, totally get them disallowing that. No G1 Bumblebee for you!

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Raxon

Raxon




25th Oct 2018, 1:39 AM

Obviously, you bring it oil and shells until you gain its trust, and then you touch up its paint and softly sing war hymns to it until it has bonded to you.

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pdk1359




29th Oct 2018, 8:09 AM
"Cat Tank!"

So in the anime "Elf wo Karu Mono-tachi" (those who hunt elves) they've got to deal with a magical work and a modern world getting merged; this includes a type 74 tank possessed by a cat's spirit. Meow, BOOM!
In the game improbable island there are kitty tanks called panthzers; http://itsnewday.thecomicseries.com/comics/83/, panel 6 of a comic of the game (that page is mostly SFW, no guarantees about the rest).
For a potentially non-cat tank (why?) you could also try to whip up a variant urban/sci-fi ranger using w40k machine spirits or something along those lines.
So there are options, though if the GM's a stickler I can see it being a tough sell...

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Solokov




25th Oct 2018, 8:09 AM
"Paging Mr. Welch?"

Have you tried a pack of regenerating pigeons?

if you train them right they're like a flying swarm of piranhas.

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The Sanity Faerie




25th Oct 2018, 1:15 AM

Guys, they made a fix for that.

https://media.wizards.com/2016/dnd/downloads/UA_RevisedRanger.pdf

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Halosty45

Halosty45




24th Oct 2018, 1:45 PM

I've never played one, but it doesn't look *that* bad. The animal companion deals comparable damage to the player (early levels 1d6/1d8 +3-4, later levels +8- assuming the player has a +3 weapon).
Hp and AC is a bit low, comparable to a wizard in non-magical armor, but it's not supposed to be another PC. It's a bit of a suboptimal choice, but there are lots of those in existence.

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Phantomdemon




25th Oct 2018, 1:00 AM

It's the fact that the beast will do NOTHING, unless ordered. And, to order it, takes an action.

And, it can't multi attack until 11th level in the Ranger class which by that point, the Ranger with a magic bow and a single level in rouge can do more damage.

Beyond all that though? The Beast Master class is boring, because if you actually use the beast, you yourself do nothing.

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Raxon

Raxon




25th Oct 2018, 1:47 AM

I just wanted to command a bunch of rats/crows in SS uniforms. Is that so wrong?

... Okay, but is it so wrong in comparison to half the shit other players manage to get away with?

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Poker




25th Oct 2018, 8:50 AM

if it's like this, you might as well just play a beast from the get go. Like playing a lion or a bear or something else.

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TheStevest

TheStevest




24th Oct 2018, 3:38 PM

What is it, Richie?
*GRAWR*
Little Timmy's fallen in the well?

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Rastaba

Rastaba




24th Oct 2018, 8:54 PM

You know...one of these days someone's just gonna let natural selection run its course with little Timmy if he keeps hanging around that well enough to fall in.

Or go after his parents for negligence in letting him continue to play/go near it.

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Darth Malice




25th Oct 2018, 2:27 AM

And that day is today
-helps Richie place a rock over top of the well-

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Raxon

Raxon




25th Oct 2018, 3:55 AM

You know, if we throw enough rocks into the well, Timmy will be able to climb out. And the bigger the rocks we throw, the faster he'll get out.

I'm such a helper.

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TheStevest

TheStevest




25th Oct 2018, 5:18 PM

I am not so sure about your hypothesis.
We should get several wells, a lot of rocks and a few hundred children called Timmy.
Then we can experiment on which size of rocks is the best for this.
It will take some of my time to do it, but it will be worth it.
The sacrifices I make for Science...

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Generic Greg




25th Oct 2018, 5:55 PM

As a generic man with a generic plan, I can't see any issues with this plan and throw my full support into thix.

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